Friday, October 30, 2015

I hit 500K+ points this week (all through 3rd party purchases at points resorts)!

I hit 500K+ points this week (all through 3rd party purchases at points resorts)! I called to make a reservation because I was getting an error booking online (I was told online booking could be down several more days), and I was informed that I had Premier status, which is interesting because nothing shows up on the website - when I hit 300K+,  I had status online for a week or two and then lost it.  

Anyway, I booked a reservation for next July and got my 15% discount, but there was no availability for upgrades and I checked a few dates for my free 4-night stay and there was nothing available.

This makes me think that you automatically get status if you purchase from a 3rd party and cross a points threshhold,  but then they manually remove it when they do checks on a regular basis, but another possibility we should investigate further is whether it's only suppressed online?

Does anybody here have 300K+ points purchased from 3rd parties? If so, can you call HICV and see if you have status?

Regarding bulk conversion, I noticed the other day that if you click on special offers for NY and select Hertz, it shows timeshare prices starting at $5250 in the fine print, which is about $2K cheaper than the best offer I've received.  "THE COMPLETE OFFERING TERMS ARE IN AN OFFERING PLAN AVAILABLE FROM SPONSOR." Anyone ever seen a HICV offering plan?

I'm currently considering purchasing 4 units and converting for $8K - if it was $6K, then I might consider converting only 3 units, since $2K per unit is about the most I want to pay.  For a 200K unit, this works out to $10/1K points, which is only $1/1K points over 10 years.  If you buy fixed weeks and convert them, it's pretty easy to save $1-$2/1K point in annual maintenance.

I would want to purchase all fixed weeks before doing a conversion - HICV told me you can only convert one you already own plus 3 new ones, so I would put the extra ones in my wife's name - once I have one in my wife's name, I'm thinking about experimenting with a pair of quit claim deeds to see if I can get the unit added to the main account in my name - that would be a template for doing the same thing with someone who already owns a unit that has been converted to points to try to transfer a units at a non-points resort but still keeping the points.

-Scott

3 comments:

  1. What I've found when I call the resorts is that you can't really talk to sales at the resorts over the phone - you get sent to a voice mailbox and then called back by someone at corporate sales - I always get Danielle.  The 15K points "conversion" package is $10.5K ($11.5K with closing costs).  

    Looking for maintenance in the $4/1K points range, which puts you in a 2BR at Las Vegas or Panama City or a 3BR at Orange Lake or Vermont, based on my chart from 6/9.

    -Scott

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  2. A 2BR lockout 3 season gets you 210K points.
    A 2BR gets 169K points.  Either way the maintenance fee is $550.  At that rate your only paying $2.75/1K  It is hard to beat.  Lockouts are very uncomon and will be preminum on E-bay ($500+).  2BR on E-bay usually go under $400.

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  3. You are right on that.  I thought it was just me, but I seldom get a call back.  Even from the sales person I bought something from.  

    I will be visiting most of the resorts this next year.  I will make a point to ask about the best deal they have.  I will be at Orange Lake tonight, though with it being the corporate office I am not sure if it will be of any value.

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