Monday, June 25, 2018
I am buying two 87,500 hicv point units (7000x2 marcus) at Lake Geneva on reale.
I am buying two 87,500 hicv point units (7000x2 marcus) at Lake Geneva on reale. Will these points be able to be used at any HICV property or only at Lake Geneva? I own no other points or weeks with HICV and am not a HICV member. Thanks for any answers. Hard to get real answers from HICV.
Getting ready to buy Lake Geneva.
Getting ready to buy Lake Geneva. Will the Marcus points transfer to HICV points and can those points be used anywhere in the HICV system or can they only be used at Geneva. How long are points good for.
Tuesday, June 19, 2018
HICV 1M Point Quotes
HICV 1M Point Quotes
Collecting quotes on "renting" 1M in HICV reservations - terms would be paid up front (e.g. $5500 @ $5.50/1K), no expiration (available until used up), $263 per reservation guest fee and booking fee (if you don't regularly use your guest fees, that's $3000 in profit for 15 reservations).
If you don't want your quote public, please HO me.
Collecting quotes on "renting" 1M in HICV reservations - terms would be paid up front (e.g. $5500 @ $5.50/1K), no expiration (available until used up), $263 per reservation guest fee and booking fee (if you don't regularly use your guest fees, that's $3000 in profit for 15 reservations).
If you don't want your quote public, please HO me.
Orange Lake Shuttle Details
Orange Lake Shuttle Details
Can someone provide details on shuttle? How often, what hours, locations, etc?
Can someone provide details on shuttle? How often, what hours, locations, etc?
Tuesday, June 12, 2018
Value of HICV Points vs. Wyndham Points -
Value of HICV Points vs. Wyndham Points -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qg7jd4yPldw-HPWaPkVk1E68KsETwoIuyBFnJPulkgw/edit?usp=sharing
I took the annual points for the cheapest 2BR at each resort to come up with a median 2BR cost of 8.2M points (158K/week).
My interest was in comparing Wyndham point costs with HICV points costs - this compares to 6.1M (117K/week) for HICV.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HB00pcN4u116afQyKAG1iumSddSaSTmC8rf5OoeN9Yc/edit?usp=sharing
This 25% point difference matches what I saw looking at a small sample of resorts that overlap between HICV and Wyndham - what it doesn't answer is whether the median Wyndham 2BR is 25% nicer/better locations than the median 2BR HICV or whether the Wyndham points are 25% less valuable than HICV points.
If someone has experience with both clubs, it would be great to get some feedback on the quality/value of some Wyndham resorts in the 8.2M range vs. some HICV resorts in the 6.1M range. If the Wyndham units in this range are higher end units, then Wyndham overall resorts are likely just higher end. If the units are comparable, then Wyndham points are likely less valuable than HICV points.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qg7jd4yPldw-HPWaPkVk1E68KsETwoIuyBFnJPulkgw/edit?usp=sharing
I took the annual points for the cheapest 2BR at each resort to come up with a median 2BR cost of 8.2M points (158K/week).
My interest was in comparing Wyndham point costs with HICV points costs - this compares to 6.1M (117K/week) for HICV.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HB00pcN4u116afQyKAG1iumSddSaSTmC8rf5OoeN9Yc/edit?usp=sharing
This 25% point difference matches what I saw looking at a small sample of resorts that overlap between HICV and Wyndham - what it doesn't answer is whether the median Wyndham 2BR is 25% nicer/better locations than the median 2BR HICV or whether the Wyndham points are 25% less valuable than HICV points.
If someone has experience with both clubs, it would be great to get some feedback on the quality/value of some Wyndham resorts in the 8.2M range vs. some HICV resorts in the 6.1M range. If the Wyndham units in this range are higher end units, then Wyndham overall resorts are likely just higher end. If the units are comparable, then Wyndham points are likely less valuable than HICV points.
Monday, June 11, 2018
Hi all.
Hi all. My husband and I are new owners. Like less than a week owners. We booked a 2 bed suite at Holiday Inn and Suites across from Universal for 6 nights. While getting the shuttle schedule from the front desk, a worker asked us if we would like to tour the OL resort and sit through a “90 minute” presentation for a gift of $110. I knew this was a timeshare presentation, so I said no. My husband, on the other hand, said yes. I’ve been against all timeshares since my parents bought into Bluegreen about 12 years ago. They were pressured and lied to, then later just let it go because they never had enough points to use it.
So we went. The 90 minutes turned into 6 hours. They first offered us the 200,000 points for $44,000 at $825/month. Nope. They kept going down, and I kept saying no. I had no intentions of buying anything. This was our first family vacation. We live on a farm and my husband works out of state. He actually had never taken a vacation-ever-until this one. After touring the 3 bedroom villa he was sold. Our guide quickly realized I was not going to buy, so she brought the manager over for an “unbelievable” offer. During this whole time, our 5 year old is in a playroom being watched by Disney pros?! We were missing her and the fact that we had been there for 5 hours, my husband said to just tell her we will buy to get out of there.
What we bought is the smallest 50,000 package. Our income tax refund is high, so we plan to pay in off in March. I was told at purchase that we can rent points at $10/1K. No limits. Wrong. We can only rent up to 50% of our total yearly points=25K. We were also showed the book and told that the last row (weeknight points) were all we had to pay for the 5 nights total. Also wrong, that is the rate PER night, not week. It made it sound like we had bought the best package. I was wondering why in their right mind would anyone want to purchase more points then? After looking at the book when we got to the hotel, everything I was told was untrue. Just like I had expected...I should have known. I figured we are already in this thing for 11K, might as well find resale points for cheap so we can utilize this.
Questions:
1. Although we haven’t even got the member site up yet, when we buy from the 3 resorts that transfer points, do they add to our current points, or do we have to use each resort points separately?
2. Since we are allowed to rent points up to 50% of our total, when buying resale, can we rent up to 50% of our total points combined, or only the points we bought retail directly through HICV?
3. How smooth, and how long does it take for the resale to go into the member profile?
I know statuses won’t chance when buying resale, and that doesn’t bother me.
Also what is a good price for say 150,000 points from Gatlinburg or Myrtle Beach?
Note: I don’t actually plan on buying resale until our package is paid off, because our interest rate is ridiculous. And we plan to pay cash for any resale.
Thank you for taking the time to read this all.
So we went. The 90 minutes turned into 6 hours. They first offered us the 200,000 points for $44,000 at $825/month. Nope. They kept going down, and I kept saying no. I had no intentions of buying anything. This was our first family vacation. We live on a farm and my husband works out of state. He actually had never taken a vacation-ever-until this one. After touring the 3 bedroom villa he was sold. Our guide quickly realized I was not going to buy, so she brought the manager over for an “unbelievable” offer. During this whole time, our 5 year old is in a playroom being watched by Disney pros?! We were missing her and the fact that we had been there for 5 hours, my husband said to just tell her we will buy to get out of there.
What we bought is the smallest 50,000 package. Our income tax refund is high, so we plan to pay in off in March. I was told at purchase that we can rent points at $10/1K. No limits. Wrong. We can only rent up to 50% of our total yearly points=25K. We were also showed the book and told that the last row (weeknight points) were all we had to pay for the 5 nights total. Also wrong, that is the rate PER night, not week. It made it sound like we had bought the best package. I was wondering why in their right mind would anyone want to purchase more points then? After looking at the book when we got to the hotel, everything I was told was untrue. Just like I had expected...I should have known. I figured we are already in this thing for 11K, might as well find resale points for cheap so we can utilize this.
Questions:
1. Although we haven’t even got the member site up yet, when we buy from the 3 resorts that transfer points, do they add to our current points, or do we have to use each resort points separately?
2. Since we are allowed to rent points up to 50% of our total, when buying resale, can we rent up to 50% of our total points combined, or only the points we bought retail directly through HICV?
3. How smooth, and how long does it take for the resale to go into the member profile?
I know statuses won’t chance when buying resale, and that doesn’t bother me.
Also what is a good price for say 150,000 points from Gatlinburg or Myrtle Beach?
Note: I don’t actually plan on buying resale until our package is paid off, because our interest rate is ridiculous. And we plan to pay cash for any resale.
Thank you for taking the time to read this all.
HICV Guest Fee - Has anybody paid the $199 guest fee and then canceled the reservation?
HICV Guest Fee - Has anybody paid the $199 guest fee and then canceled the reservation? Is it refundable? Once you've paid the guest fee, if you need to change the name to a different guest, is there an additional $199 fee?
Sunday, June 10, 2018
Anybody have experience with both Wyndham and HICV?
Anybody have experience with both Wyndham and HICV? Considering trying out Wyndham and want to make sure I fully understand the program before I do.
I put together a comparison chart - let me know if I captured all of the major differences between the programs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uf6xo4XB9BRvK_4L7iUYqZaRTLwKVaP1Xno5ZyW-S-M/edit?usp=sharing
I put together a comparison chart - let me know if I captured all of the major differences between the programs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uf6xo4XB9BRvK_4L7iUYqZaRTLwKVaP1Xno5ZyW-S-M/edit?usp=sharing
Wednesday, June 6, 2018
Added link to spreadsheet comparing HICV to other systems
Added link to spreadsheet comparing HICV to other systems
Originally shared by Scott Kotrla
Additional HICV Resources
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HICV Maintenance
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FUCJHU6fWxMJwN3Qy9GEeRp7TpRYpzlptCaVvk24XMo/edit?usp=sharing
HICV Consolidated Points Chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HB00pcN4u116afQyKAG1iumSddSaSTmC8rf5OoeN9Yc/edit?usp=sharing
History of HICV Press Releases
https://plus.google.com/113661430919220897359/posts/8o3iYrwM2oQ
HICV Points from Resale Thread
https://plus.google.com/104020799920728660733/posts/LaWm7Xm3yE3
HICV Mortgage Thread
https://plus.google.com/114464262329683750106/posts/YnrXU1CToxX
HICV to IHG Conversion Thread
https://plus.google.com/113661430919220897359/posts/Mcpzfd8BegX
Holiday Inn Club Disclosure Guide
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8AHvGd-vld_b3ctejBuZklJQkk
Timeshare System Comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6Aor4xU89_QW7c6W_2Y5m0s4ektnyY3fymikyD0HBU/pubhtml#
Originally shared by Scott Kotrla
Additional HICV Resources
HICV Maintenance
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FUCJHU6fWxMJwN3Qy9GEeRp7TpRYpzlptCaVvk24XMo/edit?usp=sharing
HICV Consolidated Points Chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HB00pcN4u116afQyKAG1iumSddSaSTmC8rf5OoeN9Yc/edit?usp=sharing
History of HICV Press Releases
https://plus.google.com/113661430919220897359/posts/8o3iYrwM2oQ
HICV Points from Resale Thread
https://plus.google.com/104020799920728660733/posts/LaWm7Xm3yE3
HICV Mortgage Thread
https://plus.google.com/114464262329683750106/posts/YnrXU1CToxX
HICV to IHG Conversion Thread
https://plus.google.com/113661430919220897359/posts/Mcpzfd8BegX
Holiday Inn Club Disclosure Guide
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8AHvGd-vld_b3ctejBuZklJQkk
Timeshare System Comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6Aor4xU89_QW7c6W_2Y5m0s4ektnyY3fymikyD0HBU/pubhtml#
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